Sometimes 'there's no explanation for something. It's supernatural'

Pastor Carl Gallups is interviewed in this article featuring Billy Graham and Pastor Karl Payne.

Christ casting out demons (This is the third of three-part series. Read Part I, "Psychiatrist goes demon hunting with exorcists," and Part II, "Meet a modern-day pastor who casts out demons.") WASHINGTON – "I assure you, I didn't know what I was doing," the pastor confided. But he had tried everything else and nothing worked, so…